W7U 64-bit Blue Screen Crash: "Bad-Pool-Header"
W7U 64-bit Blue Screen occurred during Micro-Trend Scan (Screen corrupts, followed by BS). After Normal Restart, everything seemed to work OK. Random Errors also occurred earlier with "Program xxxxx Stopped Working" message. Included in the Programs that stopped working are: Windows Explorer, Windows Gadgets, Desk Manager, Shut-Down (System reboots after Shut-Down command) and User Apps. Latest User App installed is HWINFO32 which installed with an Error message: "Program Failed: the requested operation requires escalation". The program installed and message appeared: "Windows has corrected an Installation problem". HWINFO32 works. Seems like progressive and random Kernel Korruption? (No viruses detected at the time of failure) This is an HP S3xxx series Slimline Pavilion with AMD Athlon X2 5600+ 2.9G processor and 4G memory and ASUS 4650 HD 1GB DDR2 128-bit GPU, running ATI CCC latest software suite. Windows self-upgraded CPU Driver after detecting a recent upgrade of CPU to the AMD 5600+. Running latest version of OS. UPDATE: This problem may be related to the CPU cores overheating! Both core temps rose steadily to the mid to high 60s when another BS appeared just as I shut down the system. Would core overheating explain these random failures? YES, it would!
November 27th, 2009 6:11pm

Hi,Your BOSD issue can be caused by many different factors, such as the drivers need udpate, the CPU temperture is too high, or there are virus or trojan. At this point, it's better to update the BIOS and drivers for your computer, please download the latest BIOS and drivers from the HP support according to your computer model. Then testagain. If the issue still persists, please try to scan virus in the safe mode,and testif it wouldcrush in safe at the same time. If the computer works finein the safe mode, please test in Clean Boot, you can try the following link. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929135At the same time, it's better to upload the Minidump log to the public folder in the SkyDrive for analyzing. You can try the following steps to collect the log files.1. Please click Start, type "%SystemRoot%\Minidump" (without quotation marks) in the Start Search box.2. Go to your Desktop, right-click on it and create a new folder named "Dump".3. Copy all the memory dump files (looks like Mini092003-01.dmp) in Minidump to this folder. 4. Right-click on the Dump folder, click "Send To", and click "Compressed (zipped) Folder".I hope this would help you. John
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November 30th, 2009 10:30am

Thanks for the reply, John, but I now know the problem is CPU overheating. The problem only started after replacing the CPU and finding out afterwards how to correctly apply thermal compound! There are some good YouTube videos about this. Unfortunately, I followed the instructions in the Cooler Master kit to a 't' and they turned out to be wrong! Your reply is useful, though, because it tells me how to delete all those useless BS Dumps, taking up space on my HD.
November 30th, 2009 6:59pm

Thanks for the reply, John, but I now know the problem is CPU overheating. The problem only started after replacing the CPU and finding out afterwards how to correctly apply thermal compound! There are some good YouTube videos about this. Unfortunately, I followed the instructions in the Cooler Master kit to a 't' and they turned out to be wrong! Your reply is useful, though, because it tells me how to delete all those useless BS Dumps, taking up space on my HD. there is a freeware app called BlueScreenView that lets u see all your bluescreen data and delete it too. Btw, never ever install the HARDWARE updates from Windows Update. In my 20+ years of Windows use always go to the manufacturers site and use the drivers there instead. Hardware updates from Microsoft are always problematic and always defective and always cause problems. This has been my experience since XP Windows Update started ages ago.
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November 30th, 2009 7:27pm

Thanks for the reply, John, but I now know the problem is CPU overheating. The problem only started after replacing the CPU and finding out afterwards how to correctly apply thermal compound! There are some good YouTube videos about this. Unfortunately, I followed the instructions in the Cooler Master kit to a 't' and they turned out to be wrong! Your reply is useful, though, because it tells me how to delete all those useless BS Dumps, taking up space on my HD. Now, it's better to update your BIOS, then reset the CPU temperature setting and CPU fan speed in the BIOS. In my opinion, youd better to scan virus in the safe mode to check if there is virus in the system. Since virus can also cause the CPU working abnormally. If we found there is no virus, and the BIOS settings are set correctly. Its better to contact the HP support to help you check if any hardware is defensive. I hope this can help you. John
December 2nd, 2009 4:23am

Thanks again, John! Meanwhile, I found out that my problem is a known incompatibility between my Mobo/BIOS (Asus M2N61-AR) and my upgrade CPU (AMD 5600+), even though that is supposed to work. It doesn't work! HP or Asus need to issue a BIOS update but I'm not holding my breath. I am, however, reinstalling my previous (AMD 4800+) CPU - and it's working great. It turned out that overheating was NOT the real problem after all. The Mobo/BIOS just can't handle the faster processor, resulting in random but predictable BSODs! This discovery came from the AMD Processors Forum. In many ways, the world of computing is still a hit-and-miss proposition, filled with misses and untold numbers of frustrated users trying to figure out what the vendors are not interested in disclosing. They just want to SELL hardware and software instead of solving the problems they create!
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December 3rd, 2009 8:50am

if you have a bit of time follow all my posts on this forum thread on this Win 7 site http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproperf/thread/a611d79d-9865-4a8e-917b-74b0a891912f/ I try and go extensively into explaining this very reason you just encountered about how marketing plays a role in speccing motherboards to support this huge range of processors and memory and when put together they fail and cause CTD/BSOD problems. Most of my posts are towards the bottom of this thread. Mobo, CPU and memory each play a gentle tug of war with each other. If anything is amiss with the other 2 they all start to crash the system. As you have found out with the unsupportability of the CPU with the mobo. I try and cover this topic at length in the above thread and how to go about finding out the information to overcome this devious marketing ploy that leads to such frustrations. The technical support of the CORE 3 components are incredibly helpful. The marketing ppl who write the specs for their components on the websites are not and are deceitful in a way to make sales. But then again, does anyone ever really trust a salesman? lol
December 3rd, 2009 11:47am

At this point, it's better to wait for the HP or ASUS release the new version of BIOS.Sincerely!John
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December 3rd, 2009 12:45pm

Does the endless stream of incompatible products and flawed junk (think China) from the Computing Industry (HP Slimlines, CPUs, printers, memory, Mobos, OSs, software, SPAM, worthless 'Help Desks' in Bangladesh, etc.) have some dark, ulterior purpose - other than create an endless stream of Sales and Profits? Does Continuous Improvement inevitably lead to Continuous Confusion and Chaos? Is anyone measuring the collective frustration and the effect it's having on the human psyche? Is someone trying to drive us all nuts??? From the many Blogs and Forums I read, THEY! are succeeding! Food for thought. Anyone wanna buy a brand new AMD 5600+ 2.9GHz CPU and tube of Arctic Silver 5?
December 3rd, 2009 6:35pm

Does the endless stream of incompatible products and flawed junk (think China) from the Computing Industry (HP Slimlines, CPUs, printers, memory, Mobos, OSs, software, SPAM, worthless 'Help Desks' in Bangladesh, etc.) have some dark, ulterior purpose - other than create an endless stream of Sales and Profits? Does Continuous Improvement inevitably lead to Continuous Confusion and Chaos? Is anyone measuring the collective frustration and the effect it's having on the human psyche? Is someone trying to drive us all nuts??? From the many Blogs and Forums I read, THEY! are succeeding! Food for thought. Anyone wanna buy a brand new AMD 5600+ 2.9GHz CPU and tube of Arctic Silver 5? ROFL, someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, hehe
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December 3rd, 2009 11:24pm

There must be thousands (maybe millions) of people who get up on the right side of the bed every day but by the end of the day, they wish they hadn't gotten out of bed at all! (Thanks to never-ending screw-ups by Computer Industry goofballs). I feel better now. Wanna buy my AMD CPU and AS5, passionfly1? Then, you can call yourself: compassionfly1 ;) By the way, I think that the Bubbles screensaver is the best feature of W7 - by far! A delightful example of OOP.
December 4th, 2009 4:16am

I'm in the process of ordering an AMD Phenom II 720 Black Edition. I have to have a TRI core or greater to run my Corsair memory at 1066mhz and not the current 800mhz its at. But hey that's what Ebay is for to sell your old stuff for ppl who need it.
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December 4th, 2009 4:28am

Remember, passionfly1: Stability is of more essence than speed! (especially when cornering). I'm gonna follow John's advice and wait for a new BIOS. Of course, I might as well be Waiting for Godot! ;)
December 4th, 2009 4:40am

Well yeah, but I didn't buy 1066 mhz ram to only run it at 800mhz, lol I need a faster processor to take advantage of the faster ram i have.
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December 4th, 2009 2:02pm

It's usually not a good idea to put the cart before the horse. Good luck!
December 4th, 2009 8:22pm

What are you talking about? I'm running my memory within the tolerances of the CPU and in order to run the memory at optimum speed they were designed for I need a more powerful CPU. I am running everything as it should be. I'm not putting any cart before a horse. Your mistaken. When I get my new processor I will be able to run everything at peak efficiency. As I intended to.
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December 5th, 2009 12:42am

It's no big deal. Usually, people upgrade (additional or new) memory to match the capability of their CPU. It's an easier mod. Typically, memory is not maxed out when you buy a PC. In some cases (like mine), you have to replace existing, slower memory with an entirely new (faster and matching) set and dump the old memory. This was the 1st instance where I tried to upgrade the CPU. Hey, maybe my problem is that my old memory doesn't match the faster CPU??? Never thought of that. Would that sort of a problem result in BSODs - or something more serious? (like not working at all - or will the system just run slower?)
December 5th, 2009 7:11am

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